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		<title>By: 7 Things I Think I Think (and Personal Finance Links)</title>
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		<dc:creator>7 Things I Think I Think (and Personal Finance Links)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My Dollar Plan wonders about the effects of the recession on American’s personal finances: how long will they last? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jenna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 23:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda,

I could not agree with you more that the Great Deppression left a change in those folks. This Recession has not done that to folks yet but we are no where near done folks! How many of you can say that you do not know someone who is out of work or on unemployment benefits, how many can say that they do not know someone who has struggled with housing issues? Credit card debt is only part of the picture. If the average family earns somewhere around $60K take out taxes and tithing now let&#039;s just say that puts them around $48K so their housing should be around $16K per year. Everything else should be managed on Another 16K per year leaving them $16K per year to sock away for emergency, family vactions, retirement, children&#039;s college.  Can you find housing for your family for $16K per year (that&#039;s everything mortgage PITI , maintenance, electric water,furnishings. Oh so you rent still gotta cover , utilities, small maintenance and furnishings. Can you do it?
What about 16K for everything else food, clothes, health care, school supplies, transportation, cable bill, eating out, HOA fees, Driver&#039;s license renewal, tags for the cars, toll road fees, on and on everything pets, vets, co pays for doctors everything can you do it for 16K?  You can&#039;t well it comes out of emergency, vacation, retirement forget about kids college funds,or get more income coming in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda,</p>
<p>I could not agree with you more that the Great Deppression left a change in those folks. This Recession has not done that to folks yet but we are no where near done folks! How many of you can say that you do not know someone who is out of work or on unemployment benefits, how many can say that they do not know someone who has struggled with housing issues? Credit card debt is only part of the picture. If the average family earns somewhere around $60K take out taxes and tithing now let&#8217;s just say that puts them around $48K so their housing should be around $16K per year. Everything else should be managed on Another 16K per year leaving them $16K per year to sock away for emergency, family vactions, retirement, children&#8217;s college.  Can you find housing for your family for $16K per year (that&#8217;s everything mortgage PITI , maintenance, electric water,furnishings. Oh so you rent still gotta cover , utilities, small maintenance and furnishings. Can you do it?<br />
What about 16K for everything else food, clothes, health care, school supplies, transportation, cable bill, eating out, HOA fees, Driver&#8217;s license renewal, tags for the cars, toll road fees, on and on everything pets, vets, co pays for doctors everything can you do it for 16K?  You can&#8217;t well it comes out of emergency, vacation, retirement forget about kids college funds,or get more income coming in!</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Link Round-Up For July 23, 2010 &#124; Blueleaf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Link Round-Up For July 23, 2010 &#124; Blueleaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Effects of the Recession on American’s Personal Finances: How Long Will They Last</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sandy L</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me a cynic, but I think the only reason savings rates are up is because credit availability is down.

I was just listening to NPR yesterday and one of the politicians was talking about ways to make the banks start lending again.

Normally I side with the consumer, but we blamed the banks for lending too much money and now politicians are blaming them for not lending enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me a cynic, but I think the only reason savings rates are up is because credit availability is down.</p>
<p>I was just listening to NPR yesterday and one of the politicians was talking about ways to make the banks start lending again.</p>
<p>Normally I side with the consumer, but we blamed the banks for lending too much money and now politicians are blaming them for not lending enough.</p>
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		<description>[...] Effects of the Recession on America&#8217;s Personal Finances: How Long Will They Last? History tells me that most positive effects of the recession (Americans&#8217; increased savings rate, lower credit card balances, etc.) will be long forgotten in a matter of a few short years. (@My Dollar Plan) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Money Beagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Money Beagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think for those that have been affected most will keep the lessons they learned.  If someone lost their home, if someone was unemployed for a long time, I think they&#039;ll learn the lessons and carry them forward.  For those that were &#039;business as usual&#039;, it might be tougher.  

I agree 100% that mortgage debt should be included in the discussions, both on a micro (in the house) and macro (in the economy) level.  I think the reason it&#039;s not cited is that, up until recently, the mortgage was offset by a tangible asset, so it wasn&#039;t really seen as the same kind of debt as a credit card debt, an auto debt, or student loan debt, where chances are there aren&#039;t tangible assets that could be recovered to pay off the outstanding debt.  Obviously, mortgages now fall into the same category in so many cases, but I guess it would be a huge shift in mindset and policy to start thinking of them the same way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think for those that have been affected most will keep the lessons they learned.  If someone lost their home, if someone was unemployed for a long time, I think they&#8217;ll learn the lessons and carry them forward.  For those that were &#8216;business as usual&#8217;, it might be tougher.  </p>
<p>I agree 100% that mortgage debt should be included in the discussions, both on a micro (in the house) and macro (in the economy) level.  I think the reason it&#8217;s not cited is that, up until recently, the mortgage was offset by a tangible asset, so it wasn&#8217;t really seen as the same kind of debt as a credit card debt, an auto debt, or student loan debt, where chances are there aren&#8217;t tangible assets that could be recovered to pay off the outstanding debt.  Obviously, mortgages now fall into the same category in so many cases, but I guess it would be a huge shift in mindset and policy to start thinking of them the same way.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda L Grossman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda L Grossman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Executioner!

Thank you for your opinion. My father and I were just having a deep financial conversation a few weekends ago, and he was wondering the same thing: why is mortgage debt not seen as debt in the U.S.? In fact, he said that people with a mortgage were almost seen as more legitimate. 

Great question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Executioner!</p>
<p>Thank you for your opinion. My father and I were just having a deep financial conversation a few weekends ago, and he was wondering the same thing: why is mortgage debt not seen as debt in the U.S.? In fact, he said that people with a mortgage were almost seen as more legitimate. </p>
<p>Great question.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Bankruptcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Bankruptcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no way it will continue, it&#039;ll only happen if there is &quot;real pain on a generational level&quot; think great depression, bread lines, stealing coal etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no way it will continue, it&#8217;ll only happen if there is &#8220;real pain on a generational level&#8221; think great depression, bread lines, stealing coal etc</p>
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		<title>By: Executioner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Executioner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why was non-mortgage debt cited, but not mortgage debt?  Debt is debt.  I believe the refusal of people to include mortgages in the debt payment discussion does a great disservice to a number of people who could be eliminating this huge debt from their lives much earlier without much extra effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why was non-mortgage debt cited, but not mortgage debt?  Debt is debt.  I believe the refusal of people to include mortgages in the debt payment discussion does a great disservice to a number of people who could be eliminating this huge debt from their lives much earlier without much extra effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda L Grossman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amanda L Grossman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys!

I think I will have to agree with each of you, though I hate to be pessimistic:). I think the Great Depression really left changes in people because it was SO much worse and life-changing than this recession; not that I would want to wish the circumstances of the Great Depression on anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys!</p>
<p>I think I will have to agree with each of you, though I hate to be pessimistic:). I think the Great Depression really left changes in people because it was SO much worse and life-changing than this recession; not that I would want to wish the circumstances of the Great Depression on anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Leigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that we topped out at 4.4% savings does not give me hope that Americans have learned new lessons of frugality. For a $50,000 annual income, that means a mere $2200 of savings. Not even half of what one should be putting in a Roth IRA every year.

It sounds as though we tightened the belt for a brief time, perhaps foregoing a European vacation for a domestic one. Or delaying that purchase of that must-have SUV for an extra year. 

I&#039;m disappointed to say it, but I think most people are merely waiting for the means to get back on that credit horse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that we topped out at 4.4% savings does not give me hope that Americans have learned new lessons of frugality. For a $50,000 annual income, that means a mere $2200 of savings. Not even half of what one should be putting in a Roth IRA every year.</p>
<p>It sounds as though we tightened the belt for a brief time, perhaps foregoing a European vacation for a domestic one. Or delaying that purchase of that must-have SUV for an extra year. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m disappointed to say it, but I think most people are merely waiting for the means to get back on that credit horse.</p>
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		<title>By: Budgeting in the Fun Stuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Budgeting in the Fun Stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with BMB...people will change when they have to but it doesn&#039;t stick unless they changed because they wanted to.

I just hope savings rates go up soon...being happy about 2.15% is depressing me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with BMB&#8230;people will change when they have to but it doesn&#8217;t stick unless they changed because they wanted to.</p>
<p>I just hope savings rates go up soon&#8230;being happy about 2.15% is depressing me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Best Money Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 15:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think people will continue to be as frugal as they are now. Once they have a steady job and are earning money again, they&#039;ll be ready to spend it all.

For the most part, your situation won&#039;t change who you are financially. You have to make the choice to live a financially responsible life consciously. Most people now are only living frugally to get by, until things get back to where they were before.

It&#039;s the cycle that always repeats. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think people will continue to be as frugal as they are now. Once they have a steady job and are earning money again, they&#8217;ll be ready to spend it all.</p>
<p>For the most part, your situation won&#8217;t change who you are financially. You have to make the choice to live a financially responsible life consciously. Most people now are only living frugally to get by, until things get back to where they were before.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the cycle that always repeats. <img src='http://cdn.mydollarplan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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