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		<title>By: fathersez</title>
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		<dc:creator>fathersez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a pity. How on earth can we trace something that happened so many years ago?

I remember reading that almost 100,000 pensioners in the UK have been affected by an overpayment of pensions made some time ago. Apparently the Pensions Office (or a private company that had been tasked with this) screwed up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a pity. How on earth can we trace something that happened so many years ago?</p>
<p>I remember reading that almost 100,000 pensioners in the UK have been affected by an overpayment of pensions made some time ago. Apparently the Pensions Office (or a private company that had been tasked with this) screwed up.</p>
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		<title>By: Why keep your pay statements, and how &#171; Funny about Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why keep your pay statements, and how &#171; Funny about Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 21:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] your pay statements, and&#160;how December 10, 2008   Recently My Dollar Plan told the story of a family member whose employer, in her early years on the job, neglected to withhold her retirement .... Fifteen years on, the accounting department noticed. In the discussion that ensued, she offered to [...]</description>
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<p>[...] your pay statements, and&nbsp;how December 10, 2008   Recently My Dollar Plan told the story of a family member whose employer, in her early years on the job, neglected to withhold her retirement &#8230;. Fifteen years on, the accounting department noticed. In the discussion that ensued, she offered to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Moments of Fame &#171; Funny about Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moments of Fame &#171; Funny about Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] taken out a whole paycheck in cash. My Dollar Plan tells a cautionary tale that underscores the importance of keeping records related to your pay and your job. Single Guy Money tells a story of helping a friend organize her personal finances, an [...]</description>
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<p>[...] taken out a whole paycheck in cash. My Dollar Plan tells a cautionary tale that underscores the importance of keeping records related to your pay and your job. Single Guy Money tells a story of helping a friend organize her personal finances, an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Funny about Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Funny about Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your relative needs to hire a labor lawyer. Now, not later.

This story underscores the importance of checking every detail on EVERY paycheck the minute it comes in, and of keeping a copy of every paystub--not just for a couple of months, but for-freaking-ever. Also, correspondence such as the fifteen-year-old request to make this right should be kept on file permanently; as you note, this kind of conversation should be recorded in writing. 

With the increasing emotional distance put between HR staff and employees by the automation of pay systems and outsourcing to outfits like PeopleSoft, errors not only will happen more often, HR will care less and less about them. When PeopleSoft took over our payroll system, the mess that ensued was horrific. It took them months to get my paycheck right--and I felt lucky to have been paid at all, since many people couldn&#039;t even extract the money they&#039;d earned. Every single check had at least one error. Several times, they did not deposit my employer&#039;s match to my 403(b); several times, they didn&#039;t deposit mine. The fact that this kind of error, delaying investment for weeks, worked to my long-term disadvantage meant nothing to the people receiving my protests. Then they decided that after 15 years with My Beloved Employer I was not entitled to vacation time and removed six weeks&#039; worth from my accumulation. When I protested, I was told people in my job class were not entitled to vacation. I had to cc e-mails to my lawyer and threaten to complain to the state Wage &amp; Hours Division to get that one fixed.

I work for a state agency. State employees here accumulate sick leave over the years, and after you have 500 hours you get a severance payment of 30% of hourly pay for accumulated sick-leave hours; that amount goes up to 50% when you hit 1,000 hours. Obviously, this is a valuable benefit. In the last round of layoffs, HR told a bunch of veteran employees that they had not accumulated ANY sick-leave hours! These were people who had hundreds of hours (i.e., tens of thousands of dollars&#039; worth) of saved time. The only way you&#039;d be able to prove how much time you&#039;d used and how much you&#039;d accumulated would be to have hard copies of your past pay stubs. 

Keep everything related to your pay. Forever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your relative needs to hire a labor lawyer. Now, not later.</p>
<p>This story underscores the importance of checking every detail on EVERY paycheck the minute it comes in, and of keeping a copy of every paystub&#8211;not just for a couple of months, but for-freaking-ever. Also, correspondence such as the fifteen-year-old request to make this right should be kept on file permanently; as you note, this kind of conversation should be recorded in writing. </p>
<p>With the increasing emotional distance put between HR staff and employees by the automation of pay systems and outsourcing to outfits like PeopleSoft, errors not only will happen more often, HR will care less and less about them. When PeopleSoft took over our payroll system, the mess that ensued was horrific. It took them months to get my paycheck right&#8211;and I felt lucky to have been paid at all, since many people couldn&#8217;t even extract the money they&#8217;d earned. Every single check had at least one error. Several times, they did not deposit my employer&#8217;s match to my 403(b); several times, they didn&#8217;t deposit mine. The fact that this kind of error, delaying investment for weeks, worked to my long-term disadvantage meant nothing to the people receiving my protests. Then they decided that after 15 years with My Beloved Employer I was not entitled to vacation time and removed six weeks&#8217; worth from my accumulation. When I protested, I was told people in my job class were not entitled to vacation. I had to cc e-mails to my lawyer and threaten to complain to the state Wage &amp; Hours Division to get that one fixed.</p>
<p>I work for a state agency. State employees here accumulate sick leave over the years, and after you have 500 hours you get a severance payment of 30% of hourly pay for accumulated sick-leave hours; that amount goes up to 50% when you hit 1,000 hours. Obviously, this is a valuable benefit. In the last round of layoffs, HR told a bunch of veteran employees that they had not accumulated ANY sick-leave hours! These were people who had hundreds of hours (i.e., tens of thousands of dollars&#8217; worth) of saved time. The only way you&#8217;d be able to prove how much time you&#8217;d used and how much you&#8217;d accumulated would be to have hard copies of your past pay stubs. </p>
<p>Keep everything related to your pay. Forever.</p>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Money Stories Edition No. 88 - The Dough Roller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carnival of Money Stories Edition No. 88 - The Dough Roller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 11:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sunday Money Roundup - Damn Snow Edition. &#124; My Two Dollars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunday Money Roundup - Damn Snow Edition. &#124; My Two Dollars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dollar Plan wants you to check your pay stub once in a while for any errors. You don&#8217;t want to end up like one of her relatives did, missing out on a few years of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Studenomics</title>
		<link>http://www.mydollarplan.com/an-administrative-error-could-cost-you-your-retirement/#comment-6968</link>
		<dc:creator>Studenomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad part is that it could happen to anyone. I have had school mates tell me stories where they tried using their school benefits plan to pay for a dentist or medical bill but some small paper work error lead to major confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad part is that it could happen to anyone. I have had school mates tell me stories where they tried using their school benefits plan to pay for a dentist or medical bill but some small paper work error lead to major confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: TStrump</title>
		<link>http://www.mydollarplan.com/an-administrative-error-could-cost-you-your-retirement/#comment-6953</link>
		<dc:creator>TStrump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As benefits and payroll are done by humans, errors are all-too frequent.
Now, with everything moving online, there is less attention to personal detail.
I&#039;ve done payroll and benefits for years and you&#039;d be surprised how easy it is to get things wrong ...
Check everything!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As benefits and payroll are done by humans, errors are all-too frequent.<br />
Now, with everything moving online, there is less attention to personal detail.<br />
I&#8217;ve done payroll and benefits for years and you&#8217;d be surprised how easy it is to get things wrong &#8230;<br />
Check everything!</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
		<link>http://www.mydollarplan.com/an-administrative-error-could-cost-you-your-retirement/#comment-6944</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 07:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Solid advice. A recent employer had a &#039;computer system flaw&#039; that meant they failed to subscribe me to their standard pension plan when I joined the company and made my pension choices. Six months later I spotted they still weren&#039;t taking deductions, and when I followed up my other benefits hadn&#039;t been put in place either. Health care was one of them, and since you were only given &#039;pre-existing condition&#039; cover if you joined the scheme at the same time as joining the company it could&#039;ve proved very expensive.

After some chasing it was corrected, but they were very keen for me to just start my pension six months later (saving them several thousand pounds in pension contributions). Apparently this was for my benefit, so I didn&#039;t have to make back-payments to my pension scheme. I dug my heels in, and my pension scheme was eventually what it should have been.

The irony is, whatever they invested it in has probably diminished in value fourfold since all that happened. But at least I did what I could, and showed them that seeing an administrative mistake as an opportunity to save on money they should have invested on my behalf was not acceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Solid advice. A recent employer had a &#8216;computer system flaw&#8217; that meant they failed to subscribe me to their standard pension plan when I joined the company and made my pension choices. Six months later I spotted they still weren&#8217;t taking deductions, and when I followed up my other benefits hadn&#8217;t been put in place either. Health care was one of them, and since you were only given &#8216;pre-existing condition&#8217; cover if you joined the scheme at the same time as joining the company it could&#8217;ve proved very expensive.</p>
<p>After some chasing it was corrected, but they were very keen for me to just start my pension six months later (saving them several thousand pounds in pension contributions). Apparently this was for my benefit, so I didn&#8217;t have to make back-payments to my pension scheme. I dug my heels in, and my pension scheme was eventually what it should have been.</p>
<p>The irony is, whatever they invested it in has probably diminished in value fourfold since all that happened. But at least I did what I could, and showed them that seeing an administrative mistake as an opportunity to save on money they should have invested on my behalf was not acceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: Win A Million Dollars Then File For Bankruptcy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Win A Million Dollars Then File For Bankruptcy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lost Cause</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lost Cause</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The government is excellent at screwing people out of deserved benefits: it is what they do. But that is what your congressman is for -- this is one instance where you should contact him or her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government is excellent at screwing people out of deserved benefits: it is what they do. But that is what your congressman is for &#8212; this is one instance where you should contact him or her.</p>
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		<title>By: Frugalchick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frugalchick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a good reminder. I know my employer has my hire date and birth date incorrect. It&#039;s scares me to think what else they messed up. I&#039;ll definitely be giving them a call to straighten things out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a good reminder. I know my employer has my hire date and birth date incorrect. It&#8217;s scares me to think what else they messed up. I&#8217;ll definitely be giving them a call to straighten things out.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Scary and so true!!!  People can complain or blame others but at the end of the day, you have to be pro-active and work for yourself and your bottom line. No one else will do it for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Scary and so true!!!  People can complain or blame others but at the end of the day, you have to be pro-active and work for yourself and your bottom line. No one else will do it for you!</p>
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		<title>By: Miss M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never noticed an error on my social security benefits - they send out those yearly statements and estimate of benefits. But I did have an employer forget to match my 401k for about 6 months. It was my very first real job and I didn&#039;t know how 401k&#039;s worked, so I didn&#039;t notice the match was missing. Eventually I started asking questions and found out this employer credits your 401k every two weeks, while I had never gotten a dime. A few emails later and they added the missing money to my account. Now I always check to make sure I actually receive my employers contributions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never noticed an error on my social security benefits &#8211; they send out those yearly statements and estimate of benefits. But I did have an employer forget to match my 401k for about 6 months. It was my very first real job and I didn&#8217;t know how 401k&#8217;s worked, so I didn&#8217;t notice the match was missing. Eventually I started asking questions and found out this employer credits your 401k every two weeks, while I had never gotten a dime. A few emails later and they added the missing money to my account. Now I always check to make sure I actually receive my employers contributions.</p>
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